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Earl Colby Pottinger
2003-12-28 15:22:58 UTC
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While trying to create a filter for kooks for my UseNet messages I ran into
limitations of the GUI interface of the find function using the GUI
interface. Using the text interface I found the search engine is powerful
enough to do what I want, but the GUI has some very unneeded limits.

First, the GUI assumes all searches as caseless, the search string it
delivers to search engine is a major burden compared to a cased search. (I
am seeing speed increases of up to ten times). All that would be needed is
checkbox beside each text input to define type of text search.

Second, the GUI does a very simple linear formula of and/or functions. You
can't group blocks of logic together then do a logic function between the
blocks. To solve that problem ona can added block functions to the present
logic operators but this does not let you nest logic blocks more than one
level, or add a new function to create nested logic blocks.

What do you people think, worth while addition to the find function or not?

Earl Colby Pottinger
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Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-12-28 21:14:12 UTC
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While trying to create a filter for kooks for my UseNet messages [...]
You could adapt AGMSBayesianSpamServer to do that too.
Second, the GUI does a very simple linear formula of and/or functions.
You can't group blocks of logic together then do a logic function between
the blocks.
Use parenthesis (round brackets) to do that:

(MAIL:subject="*[Dd]ogs*"&&MAIL:name="Harvey*") ||
(MAIL:when<1234567678||MAIL:to>"Joe")

- Alex
Earl Colby Pottinger
2003-12-28 21:38:17 UTC
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Post by Alexander G. M. Smith
While trying to create a filter for kooks for my UseNet messages [...]
You could adapt AGMSBayesianSpamServer to do that too.
I know, but I just love using BeOS itself to do things that other OSes need
you to run special programs to do. Pisses off the techs at work when I says
"Oh that part of the basic BeOS system, not an addon." :)
Post by Alexander G. M. Smith
Second, the GUI does a very simple linear formula of and/or functions.
You can't group blocks of logic together then do a logic function between
the blocks.
(MAIL:subject="*[Dd]ogs*"&&MAIL:name="Harvey*") ||
(MAIL:when<1234567678||MAIL:to>"Joe")
But that is the problem, you can do that in the text formula mode but not in
the GUI mode. I find making quick additions as I am reading messages easyier
in the GUI mode. I am asking if people (general users) think it is
worthwhile to add to the GUI mode. To me the speedup in searchs makes it
worthwhile, but if others don't want it then it is a waste of time for me to
appoach the OpenTracker group about adding the needed code wether I write it
myself or ask if someone in the group can add it.

Earl Colby Pottinger
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Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-12-31 13:29:35 UTC
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Post by Earl Colby Pottinger
Post by Alexander G. M. Smith
(MAIL:subject="*[Dd]ogs*"&&MAIL:name="Harvey*") ||
(MAIL:when<1234567678||MAIL:to>"Joe")
But that is the problem, you can do that in the text formula mode but not
in the GUI mode. I find making quick additions as I am reading messages
easyier in the GUI mode.
Good point.

- Alex

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