a better way to pcmcia?

[Pete]

hiLo to all

is it me or the laptop? or the pcmcia cardbus mgr, or the function
just NOT available in BeOS?

just took a Tosh Tecra 8000, P2 366MHz laptop, 256MB RAM, 10Gig HD and
installed the Pro CD onto it,

5.0.3, i think called DANO? (what as in Five-o Dano? "Book 'em
Dano!!")
Install went fine, Oh Joy!.. then installed GoB Productive, most
excellent..

Then burned BONE onto a CD and the newer PC Card Wiz that handles BONE
and put those up also.
(Along w/ APM, BattViewer monitor, USB Mouse some other small util
apps fr beBits etc etc)

Turns out i didn't have to go the PC Card Wiz way as being fr the BSD
trenches the pcmcia conf file is just oh so simple to deal with in
combo w/ "cardctl ident". Real nice stuff..

Thus Frodo this is where my troubles began:

i burrowed several (supposedly) "compatible" PCMCIA cards from a
friend's store. I checked the BeOS Lists to verify "compatability".
The last card was a 3COM 589E.

I did "cardctl eject" and "cardctl insert" between reboots to make
sure i could get a "cardctl ident", even tried w/ the newer PC Card
Wiz also. Anyways fitted the entries into the pcmcia conf file and
lo&behold the entries appear in the BONE preferences under the
interfaces tab.
2 cards i tried binding to the etherpcmcia driver but PC Card Wiz
liked the ne2K driver better so i tried it both ways then switched teh
binding of the driver to ne2k and rebooted just 2B on safe side. The
3COM 589 card i bound to that appropriate tm589 card driver. The other
2 cards i bound to teh ne2K driver THEN the etherpcmcia driver between
reboots.

Pls bear w/ me..

I manually assign IP's and when BeOS upon reboot does NOT activate the
card (no lites on the dongle) (I even insert each card tried in turn
AFTER it's booted totally)
I manually bring the card up w/ ipconfig (..appropriate
path../etherpcmcia/0 OR ne2K or the 589 driver then) 192.168.254.25
255.255.255.0 up

IN ALL cases w/ all cards i get initially hopefull results as below
EXCEPT when i try to ping outside the box.

The card activates and the link lites shine brightly both on dongle
and the router/switch.

I check config w/ "ifconfig" then "route", yep all's well and the
HWaddr or MAC of the PCMCIA card is reported correctly under
ifconfig.(in all cases w/ all cards)

I CAN ping myself by assigned ip to the nic or by loopback(127.0.0.1)
So I can ping myself and NOTHING ELSE
I try neighboring PC's, I try pinging FROM neighboring PC's back to
thsi laptop, nudda, nojoy..
just a bunch of "sendto" scrolling by slowly as the ping tries to
exec...


scoured and trolled the archives to no resolution...

Here's where i need input: I then switch & reboot another hd on this
same laptop & check the dmesg to see which card controller it has and
i think, maybe the h/w card controller on the motherbd of this laptop
IS NOT supported? After all it does take both cardbus and PCMCIA cards
under other OSes..

Here is the type of card controller this machine has:

Toshiba ToPIC97 Cardbus Controller parking itself at IRQ 11

Any thoughts?

thx in advance and PLS reply also to my own email.

--PG

PS:
BTW, assuming i can get a NiC up, where do i dnload the 5.04 dev
version and would i want to? From folks that've been there, is it
worth upgrading/overwriting the 5.0.3 install? (stability's sake)

Also is FireFox version 0.93 Release build 20040909 the latest to get
4 BONE 5.0.3 systems? (Just looking for stripped down fast browser no
need for mail, chat etc...)

The MUS (Multi User) add-on listed in beBits, it'd be nice to get back
into that type env, whadda folks say?? I read the talkback but wanted
more.. worth doin it?

Any way to disable the CTl-Alt-Del 3 fingered salute? I'd like to not
have my 5yr old spontaneously reboot this laptop anytime they feel
like it?

[Edmund]

Post by Pete
hiLo to all
is it me or the laptop? or the pcmcia cardbus mgr, or the function
just NOT available in BeOS?
just took a Tosh Tecra 8000, P2 366MHz laptop, 256MB RAM, 10Gig HD and
installed the Pro CD onto it,
5.0.3, i think called DANO? (what as in Five-o Dano? "Book 'em
Dano!!")

No 5.1 is the Dano version.

Post by Pete
Install went fine, Oh Joy!.. then installed GoB Productive, most
excellent..
Then burned BONE onto a CD and the newer PC Card Wiz that handles BONE
and put those up also.
(Along w/ APM, BattViewer monitor, USB Mouse some other small util
apps fr beBits etc etc)
Turns out i didn't have to go the PC Card Wiz way as being fr the BSD
trenches the pcmcia conf file is just oh so simple to deal with in
combo w/ "cardctl ident". Real nice stuff..
i burrowed several (supposedly) "compatible" PCMCIA cards from a
friend's store. I checked the BeOS Lists to verify "compatability".
The last card was a 3COM 589E.

I am using the 3CCCe589ET rigth now.

Post by Pete
I did "cardctl eject" and "cardctl insert" between reboots to make
sure i could get a "cardctl ident", even tried w/ the newer PC Card
Wiz also. Anyways fitted the entries into the pcmcia conf file and
lo&behold the entries appear in the BONE preferences under the
interfaces tab.
2 cards i tried binding to the etherpcmcia driver but PC Card Wiz
liked the ne2K driver better so i tried it both ways then switched teh
binding of the driver to ne2k and rebooted just 2B on safe side. The
3COM 589 card i bound to that appropriate tm589 card driver. The other
2 cards i bound to teh ne2K driver THEN the etherpcmcia driver between
reboots.

My network setting repports : "3COM 589E"

Post by Pete
Pls bear w/ me..
I manually assign IP's and when BeOS upon reboot does NOT activate the
card (no lites on the dongle) (I even insert each card tried in turn
AFTER it's booted totally)
I manually bring the card up w/ ipconfig (..appropriate
path../etherpcmcia/0 OR ne2K or the 589 driver then) 192.168.254.25
255.255.255.0 up

I don't use Bone ( I hate it becuse ti screws-up my printer settings )
I have the original netserver version and after booting the card
doesn't work, In bring it up simply by "restart networking" Then the
leds light tup.

Post by Pete
IN ALL cases w/ all cards i get initially hopefull results as below
EXCEPT when i try to ping outside the box.
The card activates and the link lites shine brightly both on dongle
and the router/switch.
I check config w/ "ifconfig" then "route", yep all's well and the
HWaddr or MAC of the PCMCIA card is reported correctly under
ifconfig.(in all cases w/ all cards)
I CAN ping myself by assigned ip to the nic or by loopback(127.0.0.1)
So I can ping myself and NOTHING ELSE
I try neighboring PC's, I try pinging FROM neighboring PC's back to
thsi laptop, nudda, nojoy..
just a bunch of "sendto" scrolling by slowly as the ping tries to
exec...

It really seems like the IP from the router doesn't match the
IP or gateway from the rest of your network.

What router do you have? and did you try DHCP?
And what cable UTP or coax?

Post by Pete
scoured and trolled the archives to no resolution...
Here's where i need input: I then switch & reboot another hd on this
same laptop & check the dmesg to see which card controller it has and
i think, maybe the h/w card controller on the motherbd of this laptop
IS NOT supported? After all it does take both cardbus and PCMCIA cards
under other OSes..
Toshiba ToPIC97 Cardbus Controller parking itself at IRQ 11
Any thoughts?
thx in advance and PLS reply also to my own email.
--PG
BTW, assuming i can get a NiC up, where do i dnload the 5.04 dev
version and would i want to? From folks that've been there, is it
worth upgrading/overwriting the 5.0.3 install? (stability's sake)

I don't remember a 5.04 version but I haven't found anything better then
5.03.

Post by Pete
Also is FireFox version 0.93 Release build 20040909 the latest to get
4 BONE 5.0.3 systems? (Just looking for stripped down fast browser no
need for mail, chat etc...)
The MUS (Multi User) add-on listed in beBits, it'd be nice to get back
into that type env, whadda folks say?? I read the talkback but wanted
more.. worth doin it?
Any way to disable the CTl-Alt-Del 3 fingered salute? I'd like to not
have my 5yr old spontaneously reboot this laptop anytime they feel
like it?

[Pete]

Thx for the quick reply.

All the network/subnet mask settings match
Everything is on the 192.168.254.x net where x = 2-253 w/ NO dup ip's.
the mask for all is a /24 (255.255.255.0)

it seems that the card is activated but yet the beOS networking is not
routing packets thru the interface to the OUTSIDE, only internally in
the box itself?

so do you think it's the cardcontroller of the laptop being a cardmgr
enabled controller??

[Edmund]

Post by Pete
Thx for the quick reply.
All the network/subnet mask settings match
Everything is on the 192.168.254.x net where x = 2-253 w/ NO dup ip's.
the mask for all is a /24 (255.255.255.0)
it seems that the card is activated but yet the beOS networking is not
routing packets thru the interface to the OUTSIDE, only internally in
the box itself?
so do you think it's the cardcontroller of the laptop being a cardmgr
enabled controller??

I really don't know, I do remember a problem here when I was using
a linksys router with an Zyxel ADSL modem.
The problem was the Zyxel used IP's for his client 192.168...
The Linksys by default used the same, that should not be a
problem but is was. I changed the Linksys and clients to something
else and I am still working with it.